No sooner had the U.S. Mint issued its new one-dollar coin bearing the likeness of George Washington a few weeks ago than it came under attack for irreligiosity. Someone, it appears, forgot to inscribe the standard motto In God We Trust on its face -- "another way of leaving God out," as one irate emailer put it. Read more...
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Still having religious prmotions on money etc seems to a breach of the Constitution, since praying in schools is a breach of the Constitution.
“In Congress We Trust” -There’s- a joke to put into circulation!
Leave the MOTTO or do we not trust in God anymore.
Or maybe some of us don’t believe in god but we do believe in Madison’s serperation of church and state.
They can put all other stuff on the edge but I think “In God We Trust” should have been left on the face or back of the coin.
RE #4: Or maybe some of us are smart enough to know that “serperation” of church and state was first espoused by Jefferson, not Madison, and that this phrase is not found anywhere in the Constitution, to the chagrin of a lot of moonbats.
While you’re at it, guy, how about trying Spell-Check as well?
Just another way to put God on the edge of our Country Instead of where he belongs “ON TOP”, our Country was founded on God, and a FEW are trying to take Him out of our Country!!
#1 Comment “Religion and Govt.” When did praying in schools become a “breach of the constitution”?
No one said the phrase “Separation of Church and State” is in the Constitution. On the same note neither is the phrase “In God We Trust” anywhere in the Constitution; it first appeared in 1814 in a “poem” written by Francis Scott Key, later to be known as the “The Star-Spangled Banner” and didn’t appear on any national currency until 1863. It just seems hypocritical for a country whose first officially established right, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . . .”, to make the official National Motto “In God We Trust”.
Praying in school is not unconstitutional, but a county or state government stating that there will be school sanctioned prayer time is. A “moment of silence” is the way to go about it without endorsing one religion or the other.
I am a Christian and, and I don’t know what the big deal is if our money has God on it or not.Put a picture of Bugs Bunny on it for all I care as long as it has enough value to food on my table and roof over my head. That’s where I put my trust in God. The separation of Church and state is to keep the Government out of religion, not religion out of government!
I am a Christian, and I don’t know what the big deal is if our money has God on it or not.Put a picture of Bugs Bunny on it for all I care as long as it has enough value to food on my table and roof over my head. That’s where I put my trust in God. The separation of Church and state is to keep the Government out of religion, not religion out of government!
Ahem… you may want to edit your status of “false”. Check out the news:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070307/godless_dollars.html?.v=3
Somebody at the mint really DID mess up some of the coins.
People are not dumb, please. Didn’t we had enough; trying persistently push God out of our lives and this country? Look around, see what’s happening.
I’ve been in a manufacturing industry for quite some time now and i understand the process well. You cannot just accidentally miss those inscriptions during the actual production process; not in the U.S. This process requires accurate if not close to precision, which an advance and highly progressive manufacturing processes are involved. C’mon please!
In God We Trust is on the new Washington dollar. Its not on the front or the back .Its on the side where the little ridges would be on a quater.
In 1907, President Teddy Roosevelt ordered “in God we trust” omitted from a newly minted gold coin because its use in bars and brothels was sacreligious. People rebelled and Congress restored it in 1908. Those coins without the motto are very collectible.
god should be on the front!
This is as asinine as the “Happy Holidays” uproar or people who worry about eating meat on a Friday during Lent. Just worry about the things that require the least effort and least personal sacrifice.
13 years of private catholic schooling only enlightened me to the hypocrisy of almost all involved compared to what I was being taught.
Even though the bible shows otherwise, I guess Jesus really showed us that the way to his Father was making sure we attain at least middle class status while containing the undesireable classes in our inner cities so we hopefully don’t have to have contact with them. And that once working class inner city parishes should be closed because those of the faith are too good to be bothered to drive down there and worship with those whom thier religion supposidly puts the highest value on. Just toss a couple bucks in the missionary before going shopping for needless cheap crap and rant about God lip-service in our society and Heaven is yours.
“In God We Trust” on our currency will fix everything. At the least, I guess I can hope that it will maybe inspire a few to actually follow the teachings instead of just “trusting in God” and selectively picking a couple token actions they want to follow.
I’d want it plastered on everything if the acutual followers actually left thier rightiousness at the door, lived amongst and for the betterment of the poor and society in general. Put thier money, actions and faith where thier mouths are.
#17 – And in MJ’s case, people should also use “thier” Spell-Check when posting so they don’t look stupid.
SNAP! You is dismissed.
Ah yes, I forgot about the spelling sect. If that your best rebuttal, it just goes to show how superficial these arguments are.
I am truly sorry to have had to squeeze my post in before the end of my lunch hour.
I’d hate to believe that you are actually serious. But in your defense, I guess it is one step better than “Yo mamma is fat.”
This country was founded on the principles of religious freeedom and our Constitution was written base on the principles of Christianity. If our government chooses to put “In God We Trust” on our currency, I think that is great. If they choose not to do so, I think that is their business. But, as far as I’m concerned, I think it should be, to honor our founding fathers who I’m sure that, were they still alive, would insist on it. If some people feel that it is offensive to them to have any thing that represents Christianity, I would say to them, go live in Iraq, Iran or Afghanistan.
#20; haha well said Mike! It does makes sense. People who don’t like to mingle in a society where they feel they don’t fit in should stay out; the exit door is wiiiiiide open. Besides, nobody have told or forced them to stay here. Yup better for them to go somewhere else where they can share and practice their Godlessly principles. Please, don’t make a meal out of the coin inscriptions; leave it. I suggest for these people to make use of what’s left in their heads to solve other major issues at hand. I mean, does omitting “in God We Trust” in the coins would ease out the rising unemployment rate?
I WANT TO KNOW WHY 50,000 COINS DID NOT HAVE THE MOTTO ON THEM TO START WITH. I DON’T THINK IT WAS AN ERROR AT ALL. RATHER, I THINK THE MINT DID NOT THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD SPEAK UP ABOUT IT AS MUCH AS THEY DID. GOD BLESS AMERICA, AMERICA, BLESS GOD.
36 years fighting America’s enemies & I don’t think any religious symbol should be on our money. 90% of the world’s strife is caused by folks who want to make us do something cause my god is stronger than your god. I didn’t do Nam, Beirut, Grenada and Desert Storm for god but for folks who needed help, regardless of their faith. Stop making faith a reason to fight. Religion is to help folks, not to hold back, hinder or set apart. If you do that, you really have no religion.
“In 1861, the Reverend M.R. Watkinson persuaded the secretary of the Treasury to try to introduce ‘In God We Trust’ as a motto on the coins of the land, arguing on the theological premise that in a Judeo-Christian nation, ‘There is but one God.’ Congress, then beginning to be responsive to the religious community and the votes that it was presumed to control, passed the Coinage Act of April 22, 1864, which designated that ‘In God We Trust’ be put on coins ‘when and where sufficient space in the balance of the design’ would permit it.” Lincoln encouraged it to try to bind Southern Christians to the Union cause, Eisenhower pushed it to other forms of money, again to gather Southern influence for upcoming elections. Both of these strong Republican Presidents used it to gain political connections & favors. No other nation has that type motto on their money, none, zippo, zilch, zero. It does not raise the value 1 iota and is inherently a breach of the separation policy. A fair & just country would also have to have “In Buddha, Jehovah, Zoraster, etc, etc on the coins and that would bring stupid to a an even higher level.
Re: 6
Maybe you should use spell-check yourself. . .the word is separation–not “seperation”. Were you an English Major at Bob Jones University or Oral Roberts University?
I sure hope I don’t have any spelling errors.
Some believe that if one opposes the phrase “In God We Trust” it then becomes incumbent upon one not use money.
Religion is a private matter. How would you all feel if the cash you took from an ATM had a depiction of Satan where a former president used to be?
I suppose it depends on your point of view. If the citizens of these United States were duped into electing Satanists, and the “religion” you seem to desire in your everyday life (schools, workplace, government buildings) were not to YOUR liking, would you remain obstinate in your desire to have “religious” symbolatry included on your money?
Consider the fact that not everyone shares your fondness for God, or Allah, or Yahweh for that matter.
Religion is man made, sprituality is God given. It is a matter of personal choice, and should not be forced on anyone.
Jesus despised the money lenders and kicked them out of church. I think he had it right.
Church vs State:
Did you know that: Patrick Henry, the patriot and Founding Father of our country said: “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ”.
Did you know that: James Madison, the fourth president, known as “The Father of Our Constitution” made the following statement:
“We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.”
Did you know that: The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said: “Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers.”
Did you know that: There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings and Monuments in Washington , D.C. ?
Did you know that: As you enter the Supreme Court, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door —and they also appear in the area where the supreme court judges sit?
How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 220 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?
It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, it is very hard to understand why there is such a mess about having the Ten Commandments on display or “In God We Trust” on our money engraved on the walls of our great buildings and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don’t we just tell the other 14% to Sit Down and SHUT UP!!!
As one of the youngest nations, we have done very well with In God We Trust on our money and having prayer in school with The Lord Jesus Christ as Savior, and we have done very well up until in the early 1970’s that they took prayer out of public schools. If you don’t get it now you won’t get it, we need God, whether you choose not to admit that our Creator Jehovah God Is the Creator of all creation and He Is Soon to return to look for those who believe and are not ashamed of Him, is the truth!!! No one is forced to turn to Him, but for those who do they will be the ones who will be blessed as it gets rougher out here, and believe the further our country moves away from keeping God in the fore front we will see me devastation as the enemy who is just as real continue to deceive those who choose not to believe in the One and Only Almighty God. My prayer is that those who know that time is soon to come to an end in this world as we know it. There are no boundaries and every time you turn around there are more leaders (judges) who can change these laws without the majority of the nation consent, and it should be outlawed for the supreme court to have so much power to pass a law that means a lot and for any law that will eventually hurt the whole country and our future. What is done with the heart or the spiritual knowledge, which is learned by Holy teachings, which are a ground foundation, what is done spiritually comes out in the physical or the natural. If a person is good and does things to help others, this shows outwardly, this is the same with laws that are made for the moral good of the land. When we start turning our heads away from the problems we see growing because of the lack of God fearing direction we see the detrimental chaos, a good example is when they took prayer out of schools, you see the destruction that has crept in with suicidal students, drugs, gangs, pervertedness and the list goes on, We are moving in the wrong direction America, you can’t keep the church away from the state entirely, most of our constitutional laws came from the Holy scriptures, because of the basic Mosaic statues, and the New Testatments, The Word of God Is True and Pure and Enlightens the heart. All you have to do is read it and ask God to help you understand it, if you sincerely ask Him, He will show you what it all means, but don’t ask in an arrogant way, because He don’t need you, you need Him, He’s God and King, and Sovereign whether we want to believe in Him or not.
The problem has never been separtation of church and state…but God and government. Some think our constitution forbids prayer in the public school…and yet the writers of the constitution not only had prayer in school…but it continues until around 50 years ago. Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802, reflected the fear of most of our founding fathers of a “state” religion, much as they had escaped from their mother country England. The Ivy league schools of Yale, Prinston, Harvard, Brown, Columbia..all began as “Christian” Universities and Missionary Schools…as reflected in their mottos (In Deo Speramus/In God We Hope, In lumine Tuo vibebimus lumen/ In Thy Light We Shall See The Light, Lux et Veritas/ Light and Truth…etc) But Shirlbc is right…our country is founded with a deep religious conscience…and it is reflected in every monument, memorial and almost all of our founding documents ….including state constitutions. Even Jefferson…a deist…saw the existence of a Creator God…as self-evident..seeing our freedoms and rights derived from that Creator.. not from men. The Motto, “In God We Trust”, was first seen in 1864…it did not become the offical motto of the United States until an act of congress in 1956. Whether some like it or not, the motto is a reflection of the deep, inseparable connection between our people …and their faith. To remove it..is to lose our roots as a people and a nation.
Well Christians, you insist that we have In God We Trust on our money, lets see, it seems that I heard that someone, a long time ago, said “render unto Caesar that witch is Caesar’s”Hmmmmm, who was that?
Apparently Snopes is calling this an Urban legend. I do remember something about a coin that was going to have “IN GOD WE TRUST” printed on the outside edge of the coin.
Now, ask yourself this question: What area of a coin is most suseptible to wearing away?
I still won’t accept this coin! If our government is sooooooo ashamed of God that they put Him on the outside, I would be ashamed to posses the coin.
Matthew 10: 32
“Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.”
Blessings,
Diana
WOW! Here we are commenting on the whole “In God We Trust” debauchal and I see so many people on here being so ugly… Who cares about spelling and puncuation and crap? Is any of that crap really all that important? God is in America ALL the time, He doesn’t have to be on our money as long as He’s in our hearts. If we have to protest something as petty as what’s put on our money, then there’s something wrong. If people that I’m handing my money to can’t see that I’m a proud Christian, then I’m doing something wrong… That being said, I do believe that it should be there… Maybe a coin or bill with “In God We Trust” stamped on it will make it’s way into someones hands that doesn’t know God or has lost their way and it helps them… Ya never can tell… But I’d certainly focus on something a little more pressing than a statement on a coin… Our government is messing a lot of other things up that we can protest. My Grandpa used to say ” Religious and politcal opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and if you disagree, they turn into one!” (If I misspelled anything, do forgive me, or don’t, I don’t care…)
That is just wrong