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Did the Federal Government Just Purchase 30,000 Guillotines? No.

By June 21, 2013

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Q: Why did the U.S. government recently purchase 30,000 guillotines?

A: It didn't. You've been hoaxed.

A June 19, 2013 article claiming the U.S. government recently purchased 30,000 guillotines (yes, exactly 30,000) and that Congress supposedly passed a law authorizing their use for "governmental purposes" has sparked a conspiracist feeding frenzy.

Never mind there's not a shred of evidence to support these allegations. The first clue to their fictitiousness is that the author to whom they're attributed, retired FBI agent Ted Gunderson, died two years before the article was published.

It's true that Mr. Gunderson was once quoted in the press as claiming that the U.S. government had "recently" purchased 30,000 guillotines (yes, exactly 30,000) — but that was four years ago, in 2009.

In point of fact, the "30,000 guillotines" rumor — accompanied by now-familiar claims that the federal government has secretly built "FEMA concentration camps," ordered mass shipments of coffins and body bags, issued Gestapo-like executive orders, and so on — has been circulating in conspiracy theory circles for well over a decade.

This, for example, was posted on the Internet 11 years ago, in April 2002:

The information I had received was that 15,000 or 30,000 guillotines had been shipped to Georgia as well as Montana for safe keeping until such a time as they are needed. (I don't recall the exact number. It's been a while. However, I do believe it was 15,000 for each storage facility.) Guillotines on American soil? What are they up to? [Source]

What are they up to, indeed! What happened to all those guillotines supposedly shipped in 2002? Why do we need 30,000 more in 2013?

I've found posts going all the way back to the late 1990s claiming that the federal government imported as many as 100,000 guillotines under George H. W. Bush. Where did they all go?

So let's get real. None of these claims are new, nor, despite their longevity, have they ever been proven true. There's no evidence nor any rational reason to believe that the U.S. government has purchased guillotines (of the head-chopping variety) in any amount, ever. There's no record of the U.S. Congress passing laws authorizing the use of guillotines in this country, ever.

What we do have record of — ample record, to be sure — is the abiding cluelessness of conspiracy theorists.

Your paranoiac reading list:
Why Did the U.S. Government Recently Purchase 30,000 Guillotines? (2013)
Revelation Beheading Prophecy - Guillotines Already in U.S.A. (2005)
Guillotines in AMERICA? (2002)
Revelation Prophecy - Guillotine Execution (1997)

Comments

June 21, 2013 at 11:01 pm
(1) Ourga says:

I was stunned , so I start on research , so then , Thanks !

June 22, 2013 at 10:39 am
(2) Joe Smith says:

I think the author of this article must be a retard. There is much evidence to support this. Nice try to deceive people. You should e ashamed!

June 22, 2013 at 11:45 am
(3) Ahso says:

Any chance there’s a shred of truth, distorted horribly? That is, could it be a major exaggeration and (accidental or intentional) misinterpretation of an order for paper-cutting equipment. Large devices for cutting paper are called guillotines. The government certainly does a lot of publishing and no doubt use guillotines for the paper, not the people — unless you count some less than alert operator slicing off a finger!

June 22, 2013 at 12:09 pm
(4) David Emery says:

Yes, the paper-cutter theory is good and plausible, as is the theory that the term “guillotine” actually references an airplane part. It could well be that some 20-plus years ago when this rumor first got going it was because somebody made exactly that kind of error. On the other hand, it’s pretty much irrelevant at this late date. It’s not as if anybody trumpeting the rumor in 2013 misunderstood a shipping label they saw the other day or misread a government requisition order that crossed their desk. It isn’t a case of misinterpreted evidence. It’s a case of people mindlessly regurgitating a very old rumor on the basis of no evidence whatsoever.

June 24, 2013 at 1:19 pm
(5) CEM says:

The House Bill in Georgia to use guillotines to execute prisoners is correct. I checked it and it is real.

June 24, 2013 at 2:23 pm
(6) David Emery says:

CEM wrote: “The House Bill in Georgia to use guillotines to execute prisoners is correct. I checked it and it is real.”

No it isn’t. Such a bill was proposed in 1996 by a Georgia legislator but was never even voted on, let alone passed.

More to the point, whatever the state of Georgia may or may not have done 17 years ago has ZERO relevance to claims about the federal government buying guillotines.

June 25, 2013 at 11:41 am
(7) Gideon says:

Guillotines? I find it hard to believe only because 30,000 ? why would they buy that many ? for killing a large number of people…ok… wouldn’t it be easier to just use gas? the clean up would be much faster and less messy think about it, one person at a time or a whole room of people at a time “IF” this is what some people have planned right ? This is just a little out there for me sorry.

June 27, 2013 at 11:18 am
(8) Janet says:

I find it interesting too that there is no mention (in anything I read at least) of WHERE these guillotines were purchased from. One presumes some cobwebby old warehouse in France holding such a ‘treasure’ trove, but just off the top of my head I can’t think of anywhere else they might be. The guillotine manufacturing industry isn’t exactly a thriving enterprise these days. I think any municipality or government would be pretty hard put to come up with a dozen such contraptions, let alone 30,000.

June 27, 2013 at 10:31 pm
(9) s/m says:

Mr. Emery;

Would you please provide what level your Federal Security Clearance is? After all, this program discussed is based on a leak of Classified information, therefore, to discredit it adequately, you must have access to Classified Information through the DHS and FEMA.

Thank you.

June 28, 2013 at 9:07 pm
(10) O M G says:

There is simply no way intelligent Americans would believe BS of this magnitude.

Having said that, it is apparent all you conspiracy whack jobs out there are eating this crap up.

And no, I do not have my tin-foil hat on to block the rays from the aliens, so you can probably deduce I’m being mind controlled by the Martians…

(Yes that was a perfect opportunity for you to wittily retort that I’m really being mind controlled by Obama, you clever little crazy people you…)

June 29, 2013 at 7:36 am
(11) michael moore says:

Thanks, David… the article was mildly interesting but the comments are a hoot! Some are so eager to believe anything bad about the government they would even defend such balderdash as the 30,000 guillotine story.
I do have an idea, though. buy one guillotine and choose one senator (kentucky comes to mind) and … nah, even that’s too subtle to get legislation moving…

June 30, 2013 at 2:42 am
(12) CJA says:

I was first introduced to this idea about 5 years ago. I believe it’s been popularized by a Dr. Deagle who supposedly has “inside” contacts. Deagle does conferences and appears on radio shows. I believe he and Ted Gunderson were associates and it’s very likely Gunderson got this information from Deagle.

I recently read an article that a congressman brought up this idea in the House of Representatives. He stated that the idea is much better than euthanasia with gases or drugs, therefore the body’s organs are left in a much healthier state for donor transplants.

As ludicrous as it may seem to some, data is found on the Georgia Government Website showing a Guillotine Bill was sponsored in 1996 by Doug Teper, who was Georgia’s State Representative at that time. This Bill failed any further support.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/Archives//19951996/leg/sum/hb1274.htm

“A BILL to amend Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty generally, so as to provide a statement of legislative policy; to provide for death by guillotine; and for other purposes.”

Many times, if a Bill doesn’t initially pass, they sometimes sneak it into other Bills using different terms, and they do get passed. Since our Congressmen are too lazy to read what they vote on, no one really knows for sure if a similar bill has passed since 1996.

Let’s Hope Not.

July 4, 2013 at 10:02 am
(13) Dan says:

Mr Emery, this is the oldest, most used and abused ploy in the book. It even has its own name, Strawman. Stick your Strawman argument up your a**.

July 4, 2013 at 12:40 pm
(14) Mark Are says:

If it WERE true, surely someone would have some evidence other than here say.

July 4, 2013 at 10:52 pm
(15) RDJ says:

If the government is deciding to use guillotines for mass beheadings, they should look no further than the Third Reich as a model, where beheadings by guillotine (or fallbeil as it was known in Germany) far exceeded those that took place during France’s ‘Reign of Terror’. It was utilised for many executions of political prisoners, including members of The White Rose, a non-violent resistance movement.

There is an interesting topic of discussion here on this forum:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=35191

July 7, 2013 at 7:50 pm
(16) unpublished says:

Well if its not true,then why are there billions of stackable caskets there as well..I mean..duh to use them…please people wake up..the gov has been screwing the people for years

July 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm
(17) Notme says:

Considering what our government has done to date makes rumors like this very easy to start. They are reaping what they sow.

July 11, 2013 at 7:46 pm
(18) Justin says:

http://www.tomsachs.org/work/chanel-guillotine-breakfast-noo

It’s an art piece from the 90′s called breakfast nook. Your argument is invalid. Anyway, I do believe the Red Shields are planning something, but I don’t think this is it.

July 17, 2013 at 9:13 am
(19) Pat says:

My main thought was why import? Aren’t alot of Americans out of work?

July 19, 2013 at 2:38 pm
(20) Rob says:

Sources? You seem to knock many conspiracy theories on this website for the authors of conspiracy websites not having any sources. So where are yours? Just saying…

July 23, 2013 at 1:34 pm
(21) Dan Collins says:

I have to agree with some other commenters; where is your evidence that these claims are not true. And what authority do you have, to have access to what would be classified information, to dismiss them so quickly. It seems illogical, and it seems you get annoyed by people who are concerned for the well being of the people of the US, when they ask questions like these conspiracy theories do. People are just trying to help get to the truth, and gvt doesn’t answer properly – this is why conspiracy theories continue. Don’t forget the threat of tyrannical gvts: know your history.

July 23, 2013 at 2:12 pm
(22) David Emery says:

To those demanding evidence proving the claims aren’t true — you’ve got it upside down and backwards. Demand evidence from the folks MAKING the claims. Or come up with it yourself.

July 28, 2013 at 8:01 am
(23) eliah says:

Woe to the peoples of the earth… The beast walks among you.
As lambs to the slaughter, so shall My people go in the last and final days, but know, The Lord is with them and in
them… With His tongue shall they testify of the greatest love. They shall be beheaded for their testimony, arriving
in an instant, in the Kingdom of Heaven in those days. Those, who must bear, shall bear; and those, who forbear,
shall go into the fire.
This evil one, among men, will require as a price: Nothing less than total obedience, his mark and the number of
his name, bowing down before his image. Those, who resist, shall willingly put their necks to the blade, for theirs is
understanding and knowledge of The One who is, and was, and is to come… The Almighty. The short season of evil
personified will end… Smashed and ground to dust beneath the feet of The Holy One of Israel… Christ Jesus, The Lord,
is His name! Shout it… Yea, sing it in all the earth! He is come, and is coming, and will come, and has come already…
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

July 28, 2013 at 8:13 am
(24) eliah says:

And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Woe to the peoples of the earth… The beast walks among you.
As lambs to the slaughter, so shall My people go in the last and final days, but know, The Lord is with them and in
them… With His tongue shall they testify of the greatest love. They shall be beheaded for their testimony, arriving
in an instant, in the Kingdom of Heaven in those days. Those, who must bear, shall bear; and those, who forbear,
shall go into the fire.
This evil one, among men, will require as a price: Nothing less than total obedience, his mark and the number of
his name, bowing down before his image. Those, who resist, shall willingly put their necks to the blade, for theirs is
understanding and knowledge of The One who is, and was, and is to come… The Almighty. The short season of evil
personified will end… Smashed and ground to dust beneath the feet of The Holy One of Israel… Christ Jesus, The Lord,
is His name! Shout it… Yea, sing it in all the earth! He is come, and is coming, and will come, and has come already…

August 5, 2013 at 11:10 am
(25) Scot says:

We can see this verse is referring to a future tense due to ” The Mark of The Beast “. that is if we believe The Bible.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Literally beheaded !!!!

August 6, 2013 at 1:44 am
(26) the_informed says:

Great idea, quote the Bible, a book that was relied upon 3000 years ago when man still thought the world was flat, and even this was long before the time when man could be arrested for looking through a glass at the sky… The sooner people wake up and renounce religion and organised faith the better, we can get on with being a society based on the needs of human beings in order to survive as a species, notc concerning ourselves with the imaginary desires of a fantastical god which was created to avoid any further attempts at understanding our own existence… there is no god, the irony of America stating ‘In God We Trust’ on thier own dollar bills is the great crime of the western world. Believing in god breeds ignorance. Open your minds.

August 7, 2013 at 5:38 pm
(27) BePrecise says:

We bind all this deception that is slandering leaders, and government, and falsely threatening and frightening people, in Jesus name, Amen!
We loosen Heavenly Father’s will upon the Earth and upon His Children, all those whom He created, in Jesus name Amen!

August 10, 2013 at 4:59 am
(28) Steve says:

Assuming God “doesn’t” exist breeds ignorance. If anyone who makes fanciful claims like the one above honestly did some research, there IS without a doubt more compelling truths than you’re bound to find anywhere else, from historical proofs of Jesus, to countless proofs through the bible itself. Relying on your own human inhibition will undoubtedly be your downfall. The bible never said the world was flat, but does have many other things written from YES 3000 years ago that we have found through science just recently. But I’m at a loss as to why someone would connect the world being flat with believing in God… ? I’m pretty sure it was some dude from planet earth that predicted that falsely. Either way you look at it though, at least if you believe in God you have a chance of going to heaven! But if you don’t, either you’ll end up down below, or… Nowhere at all… Is that all that you want to aspire to?? Life is short, and the truth is out there for your taking. You just have to ask.

August 29, 2013 at 2:02 pm
(29) James D. says:

Those who don’t believe in God. Meaning those who are not Judeo-Christian and the like believe that they are their own Gods. They are arrogant pompous narcissists of godless atheists.

Never seen any man or woman create a new living being or animal from scratch in a laboratory have you? Because it takes an existing life form to create another, and only God can create the first.

Godless atheists have murdered more than 100 million people in the 20th century alone. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Lenin.

Christians never go around murdering as a group like godless atheists or muslims.

Ever see a Christian missionary murdering people? No. Because they help humanity and believe in God. Righteousness and goodness form in someone when they have a moral center. That moral center is an understand that both good and evil exist along with God and Satan. God being a loving and caring guide.

So those who think there is no God, are the ones being closed minded, disregarding the evidence around them and insisting on remaining in denial.

September 3, 2013 at 8:43 am
(30) D says:

Arguing over belief structure is redundant no one group of men will ever have a way to completely convert those opposed.

As to “Christians don’t go around Murdering” like hell they didn’t, they started the “Intolerance” & “Hate” by Crusading around killing all opposition. Who were until then Naturalists, Artisans & Scholars for the most part who only fought when pressured to defend themselves.

As to “Conspiracy Theory” anyone who wholly sides one way or the other is most likely an Idiot. I personally have not sourced this information myself, so therefore I stand neutral to it’s “Truth” or “Falsehood”.

Wake up everyone who believes in the American Govt. or Justice System entirely. It’s sheer lunacy out there between Politics, Banking & Justice matters.

Don’t be a sheep, believe what you can prove & care enough to investigate such things. All too many turn a blind eye & keep their heads down.

September 7, 2013 at 5:41 pm
(31) DR says:

I happened to stumble on this in curiosity. I am neutral but still very skeptic to this theory. It sounds bizarre but with that said can never think this world somehow grew out of it’s evil. History keeps repeating itself and America is not immuned. Of course there is always an atheist somewhere to attack but clueless in what they say. At the same time there are Christians who say foolish things that bring these attacks. Atheism sounds like some fairy tell to think this all poofed into existence. All we see around us points to a creator. The question however becomes who is he and where is his relationship with us.

September 19, 2013 at 8:55 pm
(32) Neil Roy says:

Why are there stackable caskets? It’s FEMA… in a national emergency where a disaster hits and thousands of people could end up dead… if you can’t figure out why FEMA needs lots of caskets you’re not too terribly bright.

I see LOTS of claims, but no evidence to back any of it up and quite frankly, it gets tiring seeing it all the time.

October 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm
(33) Josepi says:

Yea.. America bought X-000 amount. The powerhouse of the world bought them, taking the chance of Assange finding out, instead of making them their selves. Sounds fitting dunnit. U Yanks ain worth it, a virus will whipe u out.

October 10, 2013 at 10:44 am
(34) Betty says:

ignorance is not always bliss….. sometimes, it is just sad

October 12, 2013 at 9:46 pm
(35) richard nixon says:

the author is an idiot, i agree.
how about those “alleged concentration camps”?
perhaps someone can enlighten all the “conspiracy nuts” what those are being potentially used for.

October 18, 2013 at 7:16 am
(36) Cynthia says:

Another “answer” on the interwebz from someone that I’m sure thought we were all crazy when we originally said Benghazi was a cover-up….now that the lamestream media has told you it’s so you suddenly believe. Keep your eye on Faux News, David Emery, THEN report back to your sheeple!

October 20, 2013 at 10:45 am
(37) Kathy says:

My favorite argument “It’s true because I looked it up”

Not really…I actually enjoy the arguments with reasoned explanation and sourced research.

Thanks to everybody who put real time into this topic!

No thanks to those who went with the “because I said so” strategy.

October 20, 2013 at 5:49 pm
(38) GoFukyourself says:

I’m sure David Emery also believes that Obama’s Birth certificate is authentic too.

October 24, 2013 at 10:25 am
(39) scott says:

I guess the conspiracy theorist were nuts about the NSA listening in to the American people too. I am also sure that the NDAA is a lie too. You fool. You can’t base your “research” solely on the internet. The internet is fluid and controlled by the government. To believe otherwise is naive.

October 24, 2013 at 2:03 pm
(40) David Emery says:

Scott writes: ” I guess the conspiracy theorist were nuts about the NSA listening in to the American people too. I am also sure that the NDAA is a lie too. You fool.”

Scott, stop beating around the bush and provide EVIDENCE that the federal government actually purchased guillotines and Congress authorized their use on citizens.

October 25, 2013 at 2:44 am
(41) Disavowed 1 says:

E978 Legal execution Affordable Heathcare Act.

          All executions performed at the behest of the judiciary or ruling authority          [whether permanent or temporary] as:           asphyxiation by gas           beheading, decapitation (by guillotine)           capital punishment           electrocution           hanging           poisoning           shooting           other specified means           INJURY UNDETERMINED WHETHER ACCIDENTALLY OR PURPOSELY          INFLICTED           (E980-E989)          Note: Categories E980-E989 are for use when it is stated that an           investigation by a medical or legal authority has not determined           whether the injuries are accidental, suicidal, or homicidal. They           include self-inflicted injuries, but not poisoning, when not specified           whether accidental or with intent to harm.          | NEXT |

October 25, 2013 at 8:24 am
(42) David Emery says:

To Disavowed 1:

Not one word of the gobbledygook you just posted comes from the Affordable Care Act.

Where it does come from is the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) manual published by the WHO. That exact passage you posted has been in the ICD for at least 30 years (probably much longer).

What is the ICD? “The International Classification of Diseases (ICD) is the standard diagnostic tool for epidemiology, health management and clinical purposes. This includes the analysis of the general health situation of population groups. It is used to monitor the incidence and prevalence of diseases and other health problems.”

http://www.who.int/classifications/icd/en/

November 2, 2013 at 7:12 pm
(43) Ben says:

If they were purchased, at any point, we sure as hell wouldn’t know about it haha. This article (from about.com, haha) doesn’t prove they havn’t been purchased any more than they have.

I’m not saying I believe it necesasrily. But it’s appropriate to ask questions, always, when big power is involved run by a president raised on communist teachings. Not to mention the unbelievable amount of artilary and ammo purchased recently, which is known.

Puts things in a little different perspective.

“It didn’t. You’ve been hoaxed.” You don’t know haha. Useless ‘debunking’. Let’s talk about what we do know, and make discussion based on that, and speculation within reason and where appropriate.

“If tyranny and oppresion come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy”. James Maddison

November 6, 2013 at 11:34 am
(44) Brian C. says:

I think much of this stems from separate articles and then pieced together with the Biblical writings in Revelation where it is stated that those who refuse the “mark of the beast” and believe in Jesus will have their heads cut off. Now that will happen sometime in the future, but I think this story is fictional.

But, if it isn’t….

November 7, 2013 at 6:52 pm
(45) Dave says:

Noahide Law – compared to – Public Law 102-14

November 9, 2013 at 1:51 pm
(46) pika says:

The FEMA camps are VERY MUCH a reality. Fenced with the barbed wire facing in, to keep people IN. YouTube “Jesse Ventura FEMA camps”. Then ask yourself why they exist. Who knows if the guillotine story is true, but regardless, the FEMA camps are enough evidence for me.

November 20, 2013 at 12:25 am
(47) Ellis Edwards says:

http://www.portland.va.gov/…/guillotine-use.doc

This is a link to an official government site, with information indicating that guillotine use is very real. The site is for Portland, VA , not the U.S., but it shows at the very least that guillotines are in operation in the U.S.

The site reveals information with details for use and care of the guillotine.

It’s O.K. though…..you can TRUST the government….

November 20, 2013 at 12:55 am
(48) David Emery says:

Dear Ellis Edwards,

I hate to break it to you, but:

1) your link is malformed and goes to a generic page, but
2) I found the document you MEANT to link to, and
3) it’s on the website of the Veterinary Medical Unit of the Portland VA Medical Center in Oregon (not Virginia), and
4) refers strictly to the use of guillotines by veterinarians to perform euthanasia on experimental animals.

Here’s the working link:
http://www.portland.va.gov/research/documents/vmu/guillotine-use.doc

And here’s a similar document from Tulane University, again referring strictly to the veterinary use of guillotines:

http://tulane.edu/asvpr/iacuc/hsc/upload/P6-07-Guillotine-Policy.pdf

Can you people even read?

November 26, 2013 at 2:47 pm
(49) Visara says:

The author isn’t too bright, apparently. If the government bought several thousand guillotines, do you actually believe we’d know about it? They’d hide the fact that they bought them just like they hide everything else. It’s not like they’d post a purchase order online for everyone to see. There are a LOT of shady operations that take place all the time within the US government. This is just another one. Just because you can’t prove they did something doesn’t mean they didn’t do it.

December 12, 2013 at 10:45 pm
(50) yeahwhatever says:

Here is some reading for YOU! You obviously believe in all the lies told to you by your peers and colleagues. Print this up and take it to the bathroom with you where you seem to do your best thinking you jerk off! Signed Beer!http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/Archives/19951996/leg/fulltext/hb1274.htm

December 18, 2013 at 12:18 pm
(51) John says:

You said there is no record of the congress passing laws concerning the use of guillotines… that is NOT true.
ObamaCare’s new medical codes that originated with the WHO…

ICD 9 E 978 Legal Execution
All executions performed at the behest of the judiciary or ruling authority as:
asphyxiation by gas
beheading, decapitation (by guillotine)

You’re not a very good researcher, are you?

December 21, 2013 at 8:56 pm
(52) Rowdy says:

I’m as right wing as the next guy and I don’t buy this crap either. Sorry folks, the government is bad enough without adding conspiracy BS and outright lies to the mix.

Trying to push the Book of Revelation into our timeline is ridiculous. We’re at Chapter 20, not Chapter 13.

January 3, 2014 at 10:52 am
(53) ljg says:

I disagree with this disinformationist…using common sense and a very popular quote…”wherefore, by their fruits, you will know them.” They didn’t see hitler coming either.

January 5, 2014 at 7:02 pm
(54) Nonya says:

After thirty years in government service…I have to tell you that we couldn’t keep a secret like this for more than a year or two.
As we are all so fond of saying…”if it’s not written down, it didn’t happen”…so, where’s the evidence? And I don’t mean Joe, whose brother-in-law talked to a guy on a bus, who knew something about some (15,000) guillotines being sneaked into the country….but didn’t actually have any concrete proof.
Guillotines are very inefficient for mass executions, that’s why most people who indulge in that sort of behavior prefer to use bullets…also does anyone here have any concept of how much room 15 or 30 thousand guillotines would take up?
The people who believe this BS are the same people who believe in alien abduction and fairies in the garden…..sad, really!

January 11, 2014 at 10:46 am
(55) Kayla says:

If this were true, and Americans were the target, then I wouldn’t doubt the decades, even lifetimes it would to orchestrate a clever takeover, immersing people into a dictatorship incrementally to avoid a certain mass revolt. The argument that you’ve heard these rumors years ago and our heads are still in tact is not debunking.

January 18, 2014 at 5:05 pm
(56) RCallahab says:

Isn’t it funny that not long after many have posted their comments here we have controversy over what is the best way to euthanize criminals? Apparently, my little chickadees, bringing back the Guillotine is now being seriously considered as a source of capital punishment. Quick response lethal injection has been newly rejected and there is much controversy over the new drug which took a full 25 minutes to kill an Ohio death row inmate. Yes, many are of the opinion ( the general public mind you ) that it is more humane to quickly Guillotine than to face a firing squad or allow a slow death through lethal injection. The lesson here is: Never say never.

February 4, 2014 at 5:22 am
(57) usa patriot says:

as a matter of fact I will not state my name nor what facility im employed at but I will state this-this is no myth the dhs has at least 1000 un-assembled guillotines stored in our facility and fema has at least another 1000 or so.i don’t know where the 30000 number came from but this is very real and they’ve also purchased 2 billion rnds of ammo for “training” …you people who think this is a conspiracy theory can join the 6 million jews no longer among us who thought the concentration camps in Poland were a conspiracy theory before the holocaust.ive seen the shipping manifest they exist.i love how brainwashed you people are so yes give up your EVIL guns like a good sheep and get in line for the next train to the HAPPY camps

February 24, 2014 at 6:22 am
(58) the truth says:

I believe this. It’s prophesied in the bible. They will create a NWOa and one religion. When Christians won’t convert they will be beheaded. It’s already happening around the world. Christians beheaded. Christians slained. Christians burned to death. Islam hates Christians and they are taking over the world. You’ll see what’s prophesied in the bible is fact and I pray you give your lives to Jesus. He died on the cross to save us all. He loves us all. Muslims, Catholics, Hindus, homosexuals, he loves and died for ALL of us. Turn from your wicked ways And ask the Lord to forgive you and believe he died on the cross and rose again. That he is the son of God and you’ll be saved!

February 26, 2014 at 2:21 pm
(59) Shonta says:

This is bullshit I still don’t believe what your say! Explain the FEMA camps they have! The Chips they are madiating the citizens of the U.S to get in order for us to get jobs! I will never bow down to this Hell because Satan is not my Savior Jesus Christ is!

March 21, 2014 at 7:12 pm
(60) Stephen says:

Biblical, the end times they will be beheading Christians, take a look at the slaughter houses in Syria and other Islamic states. Killing Christians in mass. Very disturbing, gotta add I am a christian and i won’t go quietly.So come for my head and eat lead!! God never said we shouldn’t fight wrong.

March 22, 2014 at 8:40 pm
(61) Peter says:

I’m european and I can’t believe that americans in general are so dumb that they believe in this nonsense.

When guillotines were in use in Europe, no country had more than around 20. Some had only one. 30,000 is laughable.

The ICD codes categorizes every known disease in the world, and the codes for executions categorizes every means of execution in the WORLD. The ICD documents don’t say that every country must have all the diseases or use all the execution methods. Beheading is used in some countries, like Saudi Arabia, and that’s why it’s on the list.

The “stackable caskets” are waterproof casket liners. It’s placed in the grave, the casket inside it, and the lid on top. Many americans want the caskets to stay in good condition in the ground for decades, for some reason. Why would a genocidal government want the coffins and bodies to be well preserved for decades? Why not just dump the bodies in a mass grave or burn them?

None of the conspiracy theories makes sense. Either the educational system in the US is as bad as in some developing countries, or your mental health care is.

March 31, 2014 at 6:48 am
(62) In Truth says:

Yes D is right……Christianity was created by the Roman Catholic Church which is why you have so many “different” church’s today but they are one with the RCC…..and yes in the middle age the RCC did kill tens of millions of TRUE BELIEVERS as heretics…..Heretics meaning “TO THINK FOR YOURSELF” and we are right back to that age of one church, The Mother church being a religion and a state. Read Daniel, John and Revelation if you ever thought there was a time for the beast to arise it is NOW…..don’t stick your head in the sand and mouth off if you not willing to read the True Word and watch what is going on in our world. Daniel, Ezekiel, John and Revelation are for this time and this time is very very short.

April 12, 2014 at 10:56 pm
(63) guy fawkes fuk da world order says:

This article is bullsh-t!
but nice try on trying to deceive me!

April 14, 2014 at 9:48 pm
(64) Millie says:

Actually, there are 104,000 FEMA trains equipped with guillotines and shackles. VP Biden says they are modern and humane.
There happen to be lots of death row inmates that want to donate their organs, so they have chosen this way to preserve the quality.
Must be the chemtrails, showering our penal system with conscience sulfide, turning all these death row inmates to do the right thing.
Somehow, we got involved with Noahide Laws.
7 Sins – Punishment? Wait for it. wait for it. Beheading

April 15, 2014 at 10:39 am
(65) TOBYLEE says:

youn are an un-educated decieving lying demon–as PROOF of the guillitines are everywhere—PLEASE,NO-ONE PAY ATTENTION TO THE BRAIN DEAD WRITER OF THIS,FOR he KNOWS *NOTHING* ABOUT PROPHECY NOR THE TIME IN WHICH WE NOW LIVE–he IS NOT WORTHY TO BE READ LET ALONE BELIEVED—MISINFORMATION AT IT IGNORANT/AND,SADDEST.

April 17, 2014 at 4:53 pm
(66) Greg says:

FACT: When Bilderberg Member “Sachs” decides to produce beheading machines … other Bilderberg Members within the US Government decides to buy them.

FACT: They wont tell anyone what they are meeting for, and what their Agenda is.

FACT: These are the same people who put up THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES … hiding behind the name of Christ, and preaching Death to 6.5 Billion People on earth!

FACT: THEY WANT YOU DEAD !!!!!!!!

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